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		<title>By: SEO For Flash Websites &#124; Optimising Flash for Search Engines &#124; I-Optimise</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/02/2008/swf-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-3071</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO For Flash Websites &#124; Optimising Flash for Search Engines &#124; I-Optimise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For a further reading on SEO for Flash, the following two sites provide a good viewpoint: Tim Nash SWF SEO [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Flash Is For Famous People! &#124; Web Training Wheels</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/02/2008/swf-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-2597</link>
		<dc:creator>Flash Is For Famous People! &#124; Web Training Wheels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of what you&#8217;ve got: How To SEO Flash  A Modern Approach To Flash SEO  SEO Friendly Flash  Does Flash SEO Still Suck? Improved Flash Indexing  Tags: flash, ranking, seo, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of what you&#8217;ve got: How To SEO Flash  A Modern Approach To Flash SEO  SEO Friendly Flash  Does Flash SEO Still Suck? Improved Flash Indexing  Tags: flash, ranking, seo, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sander</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/02/2008/swf-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-2479</link>
		<dc:creator>Sander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flash on your site certainly harm your SEO, cause SWF movies come with a lot of script which contains none of your keywords. That means the keyworddensity of your webpage will go down a lot, and so will your SERP… I just put some Flashmovies on my site, and saw my site disappear from page 1 place 8 to non-existency… I am busy at the moment finding a solution to this in the way of converting the flashmovies to .AVI but the quality goes down a whole lot. If anyone has a good solution, please write… Thx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flash on your site certainly harm your SEO, cause SWF movies come with a lot of script which contains none of your keywords. That means the keyworddensity of your webpage will go down a lot, and so will your SERP… I just put some Flashmovies on my site, and saw my site disappear from page 1 place 8 to non-existency… I am busy at the moment finding a solution to this in the way of converting the flashmovies to .AVI but the quality goes down a whole lot. If anyone has a good solution, please write… Thx.</p>
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		<title>By: SEO - All 2009 Nominees &#187; SEMMYS.org</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/02/2008/swf-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-2204</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO - All 2009 Nominees &#187; SEMMYS.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Does Flash SEO still suck? Tim Nash &#124; 2/9/08 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Does Flash work with your strategy? &#124; Optimistic Rebel</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/02/2008/swf-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-1929</link>
		<dc:creator>Does Flash work with your strategy? &#124; Optimistic Rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Flash-only sites have a bad reputation seo-wise. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: EDevMachine</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/02/2008/swf-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-1867</link>
		<dc:creator>EDevMachine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah...it&#039;s still gonna be a number of years before I use flash exclusively on commercials websites where SE action matters. Maybe things are improving, but I&#039;m still not gonna risk it. Too bad too....I really like Flash, and want to use it more, but alas those pesky SEs :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;it&#8217;s still gonna be a number of years before I use flash exclusively on commercials websites where SE action matters. Maybe things are improving, but I&#8217;m still not gonna risk it. Too bad too&#8230;.I really like Flash, and want to use it more, but alas those pesky SEs <img src='http://www.timnash.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Flash SEO Indexing Revisited Part 1 &#8226; Tim Nash UK SEO Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/02/2008/swf-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-1650</link>
		<dc:creator>Flash SEO Indexing Revisited Part 1 &#8226; Tim Nash UK SEO Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in February I updated a post (Flash the SEO Devil?) from previous April discussing a set 30 tests over 4 domains to see what information the search [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Nash</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/02/2008/swf-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-1457</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, as we have already seen it doesn&#039;t actually help deal with any of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timnash.co.uk/07/2008/swf-indexing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;underlying problems with Flash&lt;/a&gt;, it doesn&#039;t actually help with ranking content all it does is hopefully eek out some more of the written content from flash files by mimicking the flash player.

The bigger problem for me at least is peoples belief that it should, by that I mean adobe have gone to great lengths to try and avoid upsetting their developer community and consequently haven&#039;t got any mechanisms in place to help rank Flash. 

So rather then eeking out another 0.0001% of content out, how about they sit down and deal with the real issues and face up to the fact that if they want Flex (and its flex this was really about) to work they are going to need to at least mimic some of html functions or provide workarounds for headings, anchor text etc and then let their community decide if they will actually do the work to make their own projects search friendly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, as we have already seen it doesn&#8217;t actually help deal with any of the <a href="http://www.timnash.co.uk/07/2008/swf-indexing/" >underlying problems with Flash</a>, it doesn&#8217;t actually help with ranking content all it does is hopefully eek out some more of the written content from flash files by mimicking the flash player.</p>
<p>The bigger problem for me at least is peoples belief that it should, by that I mean adobe have gone to great lengths to try and avoid upsetting their developer community and consequently haven&#8217;t got any mechanisms in place to help rank Flash. </p>
<p>So rather then eeking out another 0.0001% of content out, how about they sit down and deal with the real issues and face up to the fact that if they want Flex (and its flex this was really about) to work they are going to need to at least mimic some of html functions or provide workarounds for headings, anchor text etc and then let their community decide if they will actually do the work to make their own projects search friendly!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Benninghoff</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/02/2008/swf-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-1455</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Benninghoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adobe recently announced that it had given code to major search engines such as Yahoo and Google to help them index flash pages.  See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9981616-2.html&quot; title=&quot;Adobe Helps Indexers&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Adobe Helps Indexers&lt;/a&gt;.  Although Google has had sophisticated search tools already for flash pages, this contribution by Adobe will certainly help turn catchy flash sites into newsworthy, indexable information sources as well.  Now it is up to SEO gurus to turn the copy on flash sites into something meaningful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adobe recently announced that it had given code to major search engines such as Yahoo and Google to help them index flash pages.  See <a href="http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9981616-2.html"  title="Adobe Helps Indexers">Adobe Helps Indexers</a>.  Although Google has had sophisticated search tools already for flash pages, this contribution by Adobe will certainly help turn catchy flash sites into newsworthy, indexable information sources as well.  Now it is up to SEO gurus to turn the copy on flash sites into something meaningful.</p>
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		<title>By: Adobe you just don&#8217;t get search! &#8226; Tim Nash UK SEO Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/02/2008/swf-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-1436</link>
		<dc:creator>Adobe you just don&#8217;t get search! &#8226; Tim Nash UK SEO Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for Flash, indeed I have it on my machine now and Google have been using it for some time, so is Flash SEO Friendly? (answer no) So I was a bit surprised to see an announcement and went to look for the [...]</description>
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