Adobe you just don’t get search!

So Adobe have made a big announcement that they are licensing new technology to search engines to make Flash search engine friendly except of course it and Adobe are not search engine friendly.

Adobe Flash Search SDK...

For those who don't know Adobe already (did) have a Search SDK for Flash, indeed I have it on my machine now and Google have been using it for some time, so is Flash SEO Friendly? (answer no)
So I was a bit surprised to see an announcement and went to look for the original and presumably base code for their amazing technology guess what it gone walkies!
Adobe 404ing
Dear Adobe, Removing whole swathes of your website because you have withdrawn a product doesn't work we can still see it via Google Cache! A cynic might think this new announcement is a publicity stunt and the reason for the vanishing old product might be a rehashed relaunch.

But Why is Flash inheritable unsearchable

Adobe and before it Macromedia just don't get Search they never have this continued quest to make SWF files searchable is as much about them trying to appease a bunch of consumers who equally don't get search. But why is the mammoth task a problem?

A Website contains several pages with each page having its own content both contextual, semantic and binary (words, tags, images) and each page is linked with others both on the site and off.
website

A SWF file contains data not as a collection of pages (which it could do with scenes and screens) but as a single page with different content at different points in time. Just think about for a moment imagine taking all the content of a swf file and lumping it together into one big unjustified paragraph welcome to SWF Searching. The Old SDK could only extract a limited amount of information the new Adobe Indexing system uses a modified Flash player presumably to help counter the time and space issue.
flash SEO

If the Adobe Indexing software works like its predecessor the next step is to extract all the links from this big paragraph and separate them! So now we have a big ball of text and a list of URLs, what do you expect a search engine to do with that?

Search engines are stupid they need to be told what is important (heading tags) they need to know what context a link is (anchor text) and generally they are very single minded (1 page per topic) all of these things make any SWF Indexing (while very technically possible and always has been) unlikely to succeed any more then before. So why the announcement?

Adobe needs Flex to work!

Forget your typical Flash website, this is not the reason for Adobe new desperate measures but turn to its hybrid XML, Server, Action script child Flex. Desperate for a slice of the Web 2.0, web service market the guys at Adobe ploughed a lot of cash into a pretty large white elephant and while Flex is very cool (I use it for a couple of internal projects) it was never designed to go near a search engine.

So how do Adobe fix this mess?

They could withdraw their only real project, make a big announcement declare Google will do all the hard work hand them back a modified version (maybe they will attempt to contextualise links hmm maybe not) and run away. At least from the outside this is what it looks like, from Google point of view they are stuck between a rock and a hard place there is a very easy solution give substantially more weight to SWFs and change the balance of inbound links, relying on the inbound links to provide hints to the importance of the SWFs own internal keywords. Alternatively they can turn round to Adobe present them with SEO101 and tell them to generate code that has comparable information to html tags. Guess which is more likely?

[update] it was inevitable...

Both Google and Adobe stressed to me that this is a big win for both site owners and searchers and that it should improve relevancy in search results. They noted that Flash developers don't have to do anything in their applications to make this new technology work for their sites.

(Emphasis mine)
Vanessa you really should know better!
[Update 2] Google Webmaster Blog has provided an overview guess what it does nothing new and all the old problems remain! You are I'm sure shocked!

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Comment by Robert from Prop Data Subscribed to comments via email
2008-07-01 11:59:51
Robert avatar

Flash… yet another place for people to start spamming? I don’t know I have to say for now the idea is a poor one. Flash for the majority of the internet is used for images, sounds and videos. How will a search put that into any kind of context? As for simply pulling the text and links out of it, hasn’t Google been doing that for a while (well to some degree)? Great if you have simple flash navigation… but again I don’t see how this will benefit the searcher?

I’ll wait to be wowed and impressed on this one.

 
Comment by John Dowdell from blogs.adobe.com/jd Subscribed to comments via email
2008-07-01 19:24:41
John Dowdell avatar

Hi Tim, good catch on the existing SWF SEO SDK links. I’ve got an enquiry in to other staffers about what changed, and will report back here when I get news.

jd/adobe

Comment by Tim Nash
2008-07-01 20:30:37

I presumed that with Adobes’ semi exclusive deal between Yahoo and Google the SDK was removed so as to not cause confusion…

Anyway thanks for stopping by JD and if you do come across the actually reason I would be intrigued as the SDK was/is a useful tool for debugging.

 
 
Comment by John Dowdell from blogs.adobe.com/jd Subscribed to comments via email
2008-07-01 20:38:48
John Dowdell avatar

It’s going around in internal email, you know how that is…. ;-)

Impression I’m getting is that the old material was obsolete and was just pulled when the new materials went live. But your post showed that the existing links to the 2002 SDK need to be updated with current info, not just go blank.

Not resolved yet, and I’m not certain of the final action, but your post here helped trigger some change on this busy day, so thanks. :)

jd/adobe

Comment by Tim Nash
2008-07-01 22:34:07

A Search on adobe.com failed to show any results except for a license page, if a new version was ever released then it seems to have gone walkies to.

I was pretty careful not to call out Adobe on a single broken link but it appeared the entire product was very carelessly yanked and given that Google still caching some of the pages pretty recently hence the inevitable question.

 
 
Comment by Louis Venter from MediaVision Subscribed to comments via email
2008-07-02 13:45:12
Louis Venter avatar

Hi Tim

Completely agree with all your comments although ill bet flash design agencies pitch themelves as SEOers pretty shortly :p

Its not only the seo elements that they have got wrong (yet again) you would have thought that they would take the time to solve the accessibility issues that flash presents.

Im working on something that will hopefully address both aspects and would love to run it past you as soon as its ready if youre keen?

 
Comment by Brad Subscribed to comments via email
2008-07-07 19:36:39
Brad avatar

Great post!

I’ve had to do a lot of investigation and presentaions about this huge Flash blindspot lately. From now on, I’m just a link to this post. Well written.

 

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