Who wins a Browser War?

The following are literal brain to paper thoughts on Chrome and the logic behind it, they are not official and while I expect for my first thought it will be backed up with stats the second we may have to wait till everything pans out.

Why make a browser

Its a simple if some what open ended question if you are a large search engine why would you invest time and money into a browser. Stand back from one of the cleverest “oops did we leak that?” launches ever and ponder just how Evil is Google?

Google just made millions from people like you!

It might be a drop in the ocean, but the browser development probably didn't cost a great deal to scale from an internal system to a large project except a small team and plenty of man hours but for Google man hours are cheap, However even a drop needs to pay for itself, so how does an open source browser make Google millions overnight?

Well who is going to adopt Google Chrome first? Let's see is it Gran in her home just firing up the big blue E or perhaps the web developer with FF 3 and perhaps more crucially pimped out plugins?

What is one of the single most adopted plugins in the world for Firefox 3? Still don't get it ok spot the difference from fellow northern SEO bloggers DaveN post on Google Chrome!

Dave Naylor Adsense secret - Well I Didn't know!

I didn't even know he ran Adsense on his site but in surfing the web with Chrome in the last hour I have clicked by accident on at least 2 Google ads. Think about that for a second? Suddenly you have 100's of thousand if not millions of people suddenly being re-introduced to Google ad's having to remember what the things look like and pay attention to where you click less you wander into an Adsense trap. But if you think it's us poor chrome users that will suffer you are mistaken, PPC campaigns in technology niches will no doubt see a steep rise but will their sales? This strategy is bordering on genius inflated PPC see's really only Google winning and everyone else paying.

But that doesn't answer the question why?
Well I don't have an answer, I do have a thought of why I would do it, but first let me speculate. A while ago I saw a rather unusual useragent in my logs something calling itself GoogleBot but coming with a webkit user agent string.

Total aside but for your records Chrome user agent is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.13 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/0.X.Y.Z Safari/525.13.

I didn't think much of it and it's still just as likely to be a Mac user badly spoofing Googlebot but today it got me thinking.
I have covered Simple Block Segmentation analysis before and given a brief overview of its big brother Visual segmentation analysis at the time I focused on Microsofts research but it would be naive to think they were alone in their ideas. Since then we have worked on developing our own system using Opera which has screenshot grabbing via command line allowing batching another post to write about. But the problem is Opera renders very differently then say IE if I was a search engine I would find it much more convenient to use only one rendering agent to do such analysis (it's worth remembering that Google “new found” Flash search ability is based on similar modified browser technology) and not have to deal with 3 or 4. If I can saturate the market I can start really developing modified versions of my browser with a search crawler not a human driving.

Just some thoughts, to the tin foil hat brigade a very quick couple of checks no obvious phone home devices it's not looking like spyware, though contrary to other reports I'm finding my copy in real world tests to be sluggish.

Quick apologies for absence family crisis and so bad bits prevented blogging this post was rushed set of thoughts hopefully I will explore them more fully in future..

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Comment by Hobo from Hobo SEO Subscribed to comments via email
2008-09-02 22:50:37
Hobo avatar

Nice spot Tim :)

 
Comment by Tad Chef from SEO 2.0 Subscribed to comments via email
2008-09-02 23:20:57
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Yeah, finally some common sense, I already got tired of the Chrome craze after one day. To be honest I do not even like the idea of it: http://seo2.0.onreact.com/7-reasons-why-google-chrome-the-new-google-browser-is-a-bad-idea

 
Comment by Tim Nash
2008-09-02 23:32:35

@Hobo - Thanks Shaun :)

@Tad You are still the master link dropper, though I’m not sure I agree with your arguments nor am I opposed to the idea of Chrome particularly I have been playing with it briefly this evening and generally its a nice browser bit quirky and the UI is clever but needs polishing.

That said a bit of cynicism never does any harm and it’s important people occasionally think a) who pays for this and b) why sometimes just having your information is not enough I guess?

 
Comment by DaveN from www.davidnaylor.co.uk Subscribed to comments via email
2008-09-03 09:40:29
DaveN avatar

Thanks TIM ! will get that fixed are you using FF3

 
Comment by Graham from Effective Website Design Subscribed to comments via email
2008-09-03 12:29:50
Graham avatar

I hate it already. I was already annoyed with that stupid google suggest thing as soon as I type something into the address bar and now I’m stuck with it here as well.

It’s a good job I don’t use the google toolabar otherwise I’d have this poxy browser making even more suggestions.

Don’t think it will topple FF, it will be a distraction for a while then lump along with opera as one of the the also rans.

In any case, the interface is all wrong. I like the menu bar, Alt+F and it’s all there. With chrome I have to trundle over to top right, decide which of the two icons to choose and then make a slection from the sparse choices. Where’s the print preview and view source links?

I’ve tested my sites and they mostly work (just a tiny font problem on one site) so I’ll not be using chrome again.

If you wern’t sure, I’ll make it clear, I don’t like chrome very much. Mind you, I thought WordPerfect 5.1 was the best ever so what do I know.

 
Comment by Jack Humphrey from Friday Traffic Report Subscribed to comments via email
2008-09-03 14:56:09
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@Graham - WordPerfect ROCKED!

If you all don’t mind, I’ll just take your word for it and not even download the thing. You can’t just put chrome on a browser and think people are going to love it.

I put some 22″ rims on my Flock browser, but it’s still slow.

 
Comment by Numptie who can't read from Free iphone and Blackberry themes
2008-09-04 08:48:10
Numptie who can't read avatar

Hey i agree, i tried chrome too . . . after about 20 minutes i closed it, re-opened firefox and have not opened it again since. If memory serves, that was only 2 days ago, and i dont really remember but there was something lacking that only firefox serves for my general webmaster purposes. Cheers, i gave it a stumble thumbs up and a digg too!

 
Comment by Tony Murphy from Web Business Architecture Subscribed to comments via email
2008-09-04 13:54:08
Tony Murphy avatar

Hi Tim.

I would agree with you that Google are going to get more dosh from PPC via their new browser, but I thuink that it is also (mainly) a part of their strategy to become the new desktop and operating system.

Google are investing in online storage - your new hard drive
They are providing you with iGoogle - your desktop
They give you Chrome - your browser
They are investing heavily in web apps - your new microsoft office

They bring you tea!
Well, I’m still waiting on that one :-)

cheers
Tony

 
Comment by Rob from robinnixon.com Subscribed to comments via email
2008-09-04 16:39:43
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I think the best outcome will be Firefox incorporating the V8 Javascript engine and couple of other Goodies - then there will be no need for anyone to use Chrome.

 
Comment by Katy from Flipping Heck! Subscribed to comments via email
2008-09-06 17:51:33
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I did see on the BBC News 24 Program “Click” this morning that Chrome is based on Apple’s Webkit. If that’s the case, why isn’t there a Mac version available?!

To be honest, I can’t see me moving away from FireFox, although as a Web Developer yet another browser to test on is something I don’t need!

Comment by Tim Nash
2008-09-06 18:10:22

Hi Katy, While Webkit was originally apple baby and is indeed the basis of Safari it’s basis is in the old KDE browser making it a Linux thing :) There isn’t a Linux version either :( still the good news is since your already testing Safari you don’t need to test Google as well (at least that’s the theory) given they share rendering engines.

 
 
Comment by Mike Annable from Printing Lakeland Florida Subscribed to comments via email
2008-09-11 04:25:38
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I haven’t tried chrome yet, but I was thinking the other day. I remember back in the mid to late 90’s making websites. I always had to be concerned with layouts between Internet Explorer and Netscape at the time. Oh yeah, we can’t forget silly AOL and Web TV.
Then, 10 years later it’s IE and Firefox. Now we have to be concerned with Google Chrome. Geesh…..what’s next?

 
Comment by Hobo from Hobo SEO Subscribed to comments via email
2008-09-11 15:42:43
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RE What’s next….

You have heard of the mobile revolution lol.

… and we’ll always be tweaking for the next version of IE of course :)

 
Comment by Jon from Beauty Salon Marketing Subscribed to comments via email
2008-09-13 11:17:19
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I’m with Tony on this one. I think their long-term strategy is to become the equivalent of Microsoft Office for the Web 2.0 world - and having a browser is like becoming the operating system for that world

It’ll be interesting to see if they start doing deals to get Chrome pre-installed by the PC manufacturers, or the ISPs (on their setup disks). That seems to be the strategy they’re taking with mobile phones.

Cheers, Jon

 

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