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	<title>Comments on: Lies, damn lies and PageRank statistics</title>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/11/2007/lies-damn-lies-and-pagerank-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-4446</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reassuring to see some decent stats in this field. Its the old &quot;causation not correlation&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reassuring to see some decent stats in this field. Its the old &#8220;causation not correlation&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Nash</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/11/2007/lies-damn-lies-and-pagerank-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-2681</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 08:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact it took you 3 attempts to post a comment ;) means I suspect you either didn&#039;t read the article or simply didn&#039;t understand it but if you look at the picture of the DNA, the man and the Pig I think it explains the difference between correlation and effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact it took you 3 attempts to post a comment <img src='http://www.timnash.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  means I suspect you either didn&#8217;t read the article or simply didn&#8217;t understand it but if you look at the picture of the DNA, the man and the Pig I think it explains the difference between correlation and effect.</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/11/2007/lies-damn-lies-and-pagerank-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-2658</link>
		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great article written after analysis,but the fact is that page rank is responsible for high listing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great article written after analysis,but the fact is that page rank is responsible for high listing.</p>
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		<title>By: önder</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/11/2007/lies-damn-lies-and-pagerank-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-1135</link>
		<dc:creator>önder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me pagerank is a tool which is a starting point for text link sellers. and here is a point that we have to know; if your web page doesnt include what people are looking for your pagerank doesnt mean anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me pagerank is a tool which is a starting point for text link sellers. and here is a point that we have to know; if your web page doesnt include what people are looking for your pagerank doesnt mean anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Link Worth – What&#8217;s yours worth &#8226; Tim Nash UK SEO Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/11/2007/lies-damn-lies-and-pagerank-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-1109</link>
		<dc:creator>Link Worth – What&#8217;s yours worth &#8226; Tim Nash UK SEO Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] never know “Link Worth” and Page Rank may have many factors in common but they are not the same beast (pun intended for regular readers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] never know “Link Worth” and Page Rank may have many factors in common but they are not the same beast (pun intended for regular readers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Horsley</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/11/2007/lies-damn-lies-and-pagerank-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-683</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Horsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Page Rank is key to high listings 

Jamie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Page Rank is key to high listings </p>
<p>Jamie</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McNelis</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/11/2007/lies-damn-lies-and-pagerank-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-634</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim McNelis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have enjoyed our little conversation/debate on the matter (seems we do agree for the most part).

I made a post on the importance of Toolbar PageRank which is related to our conversation:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://ditoweb.com/blog/google/why-toolbar-pagerank-is-important/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Toolbar PageRank is Important&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have enjoyed our little conversation/debate on the matter (seems we do agree for the most part).</p>
<p>I made a post on the importance of Toolbar PageRank which is related to our conversation:</p>
<p><a href="http://ditoweb.com/blog/google/why-toolbar-pagerank-is-important/" rel="nofollow">Why Toolbar PageRank is Important</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Nash</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/11/2007/lies-damn-lies-and-pagerank-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-633</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can assign your own weight to a given factor :D but the PageRank effects the page not the keyword now the page obviously effects the keywords ranking. So whatever ranking factors are in place the combined PageRank factors are only one group. You can debate till your blue in the face how much influence they do or don&#039;t have but as we have already determined they are as a collective not the only factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can assign your own weight to a given factor <img src='http://www.timnash.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  but the PageRank effects the page not the keyword now the page obviously effects the keywords ranking. So whatever ranking factors are in place the combined PageRank factors are only one group. You can debate till your blue in the face how much influence they do or don&#8217;t have but as we have already determined they are as a collective not the only factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McNelis</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/11/2007/lies-damn-lies-and-pagerank-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim McNelis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The PageRank metric uses common factors to those seen as factors in ranking a page but not a given keyword.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you are close here Tim, but the statement does not give enough weight to PageRank, in my opinion.  

I can fully optimize a page for &quot;life insurance&quot; but no matter what I do with the keywords on-page or off-page, I am not going to be able to achieve a top 10 result in the SERPs for that keyword without PageRank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The PageRank metric uses common factors to those seen as factors in ranking a page but not a given keyword.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you are close here Tim, but the statement does not give enough weight to PageRank, in my opinion.  </p>
<p>I can fully optimize a page for &#8220;life insurance&#8221; but no matter what I do with the keywords on-page or off-page, I am not going to be able to achieve a top 10 result in the SERPs for that keyword without PageRank.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Nash</title>
		<link>http://www.timnash.co.uk/11/2007/lies-damn-lies-and-pagerank-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-631</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not really lets try...

The PageRank metric uses common factors to those seen as factors in ranking a page but not a given keyword.

That is a fair and accurate statement if Google does or does not combine the factors is irrelevant their is commonality but more factors go into the ranking of a page for a &lt;strong&gt;keyword&lt;/strong&gt; then simply its PageRank.</description>
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<p>The PageRank metric uses common factors to those seen as factors in ranking a page but not a given keyword.</p>
<p>That is a fair and accurate statement if Google does or does not combine the factors is irrelevant their is commonality but more factors go into the ranking of a page for a <strong>keyword</strong> then simply its PageRank.</p>
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